Drums. Do they have a place in the worship services of the church? Or not? There is certainly a difference of opinion as to whether they are an appropriate accompaniment to congregational singing or music ministry in our services.
Some welcome them enthusiastically. For others they are an unnecessary distraction at best, something to be endured. Still others are appalled at what they see as a worldly intrusion, and reject their use altogether. Herewith, then, some observations. One person’s perspective on the subject.
I know I will leave myself open to howls of protest from some but, for me, drums do not belong in the church. I see them as a sad encroachment of the godless world that is not only unnecessary, but at times even detrimental to godly worship. I’m not speaking of those congregations large enough to have an orchestra, in which percussion instruments provide occasional accents, carefully kept in balance with the other instruments. Rather, this evaluation concerns an almost incessant and intrusive percussion, the almost ubiquitous rhythm section of popular contemporary music, sacred and secular.
Yes, drums appeal to some, and they provide an opportunity for another kind of talent to be put to use. They are also said to promote excitement in singing, but the feeling about the latter is far from unanimous. On balance, there are several factors which at least commend discretion in the matter.
FOCUS
What is the purpose of more strongly accenting certain beats (sometimes monotonously) in the hymns and choruses we sing? Is it necessary? Can’t we keep together without it? Does it add to their beauty? Not for some–not for me. Personally, it rather reminds me of some demented plumber banging endlessly on the drainpipes!
Musically, most times, a focus on the rhythm seems uncalled for. A continuous beat that so often bears little relation to the words does not enhance their message. And its presence tends to give songs a certain sameness and uniformity of style–like putting ketchup on all our food–that hinders an appreciation for the nuances of feeling represented in our sacred music.
They can even seem almost to overpower the voices, particularly in smaller auditoriums. There is a danger of abuse, and this writer has experienced it a number of times. Without great care, the beat can overwhelm the singers. I have been in services where the volume of the drums and amplified guitars was so deafening I could not hear those singing next to me.
This smacks of a return to the Dark Ages, when the joy of fellowship in song was taken from the congregation and replaced with a performance by the “professionals” up front. Lost is the wonderful experience of the harmonious singing of God’s praises, in which we are able to appreciate the contribution of all.
Further–and this is a critical point, it could be argued that a constant drumming–or drumming that seems to compete with the singing–tends to turn a spiritual ministry (through the message of the words) into a more sensual experience (through the rhythm of the music).
“‘Come now, and let us reason together,’ says the Lord” (Isa. 1:18). The foundation of spiritual growth is still a thoughtful study of, and meditation on, the Word of God. And music, used properly, is to provide a setting and a frame for the effective communication of that Word, to aid us in “teaching and admonishing one another” (Col. 3:16).
Are we losing a sense of the distinction between fleshly excitement and spiritual joy? Let the exhilaration of our congregational singing arise primarily from an appreciation of the truth–and of God Himself (Ps. 28:7), and not simply a physiological and psychological response to a beat. The latter may, in fact, distract worshipers from a true worship.
Listen here to a popular choral rendition of the beautiful old hymn Rock of Ages. The text of the hymn is a prayer. But how “prayerful” does this sound to you? And did you notice? We get a repetitious singing of the first couple of lines of the hymn, but we never get to “Be of sin the double cure– / Save me from its guilt and power.” So, we never get proper teaching as to the reason we need to hide in Christ, by faith. The same truncated treatment is given to a smattering of The Solid Rock.
More than a century ago, Charles Haddon Spurgeon criticized some of the church music of his day with words that still ring true:
Is it not a sin to be tickling men’s ears with sounds when we profess to be adoring the Lord?…Do not men mistake physical effects for spiritual impulses? Do they not often offer to God strains more calculated for human amusement than for divine acceptance?” (from Psalms, by Charles Spurgeon).
ASSOCIATION
Percussion instruments have a long history, and are mentioned in the Word of God (though it is interesting, if not significant, that drums never are). They have been used to mark time, to send a signal, and, in the case of symphonic bands and orchestras, to add accent and emphasis at certain points in a musical work.
Historically, and for many years, drum kits (traps) have been used predominantly in dance bands, and secular rock bands. There they provide a driving beat which stirs a rhythmic response and adds excitement for dancing. That association is difficult to shake off, since it continues to be prominent in the popular music of the day.
Also, drums traditionally have been a vehicle for solo virtuosity and showmanship. I can admire the incredible drum work of Buddy Rich, arguably the greatest drummer of them all. But I wouldn’t want this sort of thing in church. (Just for fun, give a listen, here to a four-and-a-half-minute solo, for most of which Mr. Rich’s sticks are simply a blur. Amazing!) As noted previously, due to their intrusiveness and tendency to dominate, drum sets do tend to draw attention to the individual. In the services of the church, and in congregational singing, this is surely contrary to our purpose, where “He must increase, but I must decrease” (Jn. 3:30).
Because of this strong association in the minds of some with worldly music and worldly pleasures, there are those who see their inclusion in worship as a step backward. We should not be trying to see how much like the world we can be; we should be demonstrating as clear a distinction from it as possible. For certain individuals, the instruments may even recall their past experiences in the world–a life they are trying to leave behind.
It may be significant that there is not a single reference in the epistles to Christians using instrumental music of any kind. In spite of the fact that various instruments were used in Old Testament temple worship, and in spite of the fact that some are seen again in John’s prophetic vision of God’s throne, in Revelation, the apostolic church apparently avoided the use of instruments–percussion or otherwise.
The likely reason is their close association with worldly entertainment and heathen worship in the first century. I’m not suggesting we do away with all instrumentation in the services of the church–though this can be a refreshing change. However, such associations must be a concern for us as well (cf. I Jn. 2:15-17).
SEPARATION
The music of the world intrudes on our lives at every turn, on radio and television, in restaurants and doctor’s offices, in malls and elevators, and even as we walk down the street. Should there not be some haven free from it? Perhaps there ought to be, in the house of God, a music that is distinctly His, and not simply a copy of what the world is doing.
The great hymns of the church, and the more doctrinally solid choruses, fit that criterion. They represent triumphs of faith and devotion over many centuries. In the words of essayist Robert Bridges:
If we consider and ask ourselves what sort of music we should wish to hear on entering a church, we should surely, in describing our ideal, say first of all that it must be something different from what is heard elsewhere; that it should be a sacred music, devoted to its purpose” (from the Preface to The Hymn Book, 1938).
That our sacred music is “different” is something to celebrate, not complain about. That it is rooted in tradition is a characteristic in itself inseparable from its message. Christianity is anchored to the past. To the cross, first of all, but also to the Reformation and to great times of revival that followed. This fact should at least encourage balance between the old and the new. We ought to rejoice in our spiritual heritage and not be too quick to cast it aside.
Let us “ask for the old paths, where the good way is, and walk in it” (Jer. 6:16). Before we rush to “keep up with the times,” it is worth considering whether the “times” reflect better the spirit of Christ or of the world. Sometimes music that is called “Christian” is superficial, and even downright unbiblical. We are to be in the world, but not of the world (cf. II Cor. 6:15-17).
UNITY
The other side of the coin of separation from the world is the unity of believers. Paul’s desire for the Corinthians was, “that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment” (I Cor. 1:10). At times, the debate over this issue divides along generational lines. Because of this, the presence of drums tends to attract or repel different segments of the congregation, fostering disunity and distrust. When young people and the older generation should be coming together and learning from each other, it seems counterproductive to create unnecessary division.
Some congregations are prepared to “endure” the drums as a kind of compromise, in hopes of keeping teen-agers in the church. But at what cost? It is demonstrable that, for at least some young people, music with a dominating rhythm is a passion–one would almost say an addiction– that has robbed them of a fuller appreciation of other kinds of music.
We may do these individuals a disservice by accommodating them without careful thought. Further, in my experience, this attempt to keep people interested in church by copying what they enjoy in the world often has had very limited and short-term success.
It is important for leaders in the church to weigh all the factors carefully rather than simply succumbing to pressure from either side in an attempt to keep the peace (cf. Rom. 15:1-2). More is at stake than just a difference in taste. What principles of God’s Word are relevant? What is the value of this addition? Is it appropriate to the situation? Does it help us to meet the needs of all the congregation? A consideration of such questions will encourage balance and temperance in the resolution of the issue.
Bottom line: We are each different as to the music in our lives, and with respect to how it affects us. But communication problems arise if the music accompanying a Christian message is associated in the mind of the hearer with a corrupt and sinful lifestyle (I Cor. 14:8; 15:33). We must not, with our music, encourage or glorify that attachment to the world that God hates (II Cor. 6:17; I Jn. 2:15-17).
Neither drums nor any instrument should intrude a platform “performance” into the fellowship of singing. Better to have no instruments at all than do that! And whatever is used, the volume should never be deafening, or even dominating. It must never prevent worshipers from hearing and blending with voices around them.
For further reading, see Ignorance, Blissful or Otherwise and Caught Between Two Worlds.
Wordwise Hymns 
[…] Here is a nicely sung version of I Surrender All. But… (pet peeve coming, here) to me, the incessant percussion is just a distraction. It does nothing for the song whatsoever. For more about the problem of drums in the services of the church, see the article Drums in Worship. […]
By: Today in 1830 – Christina Rossetti Born « Wordwise Hymns on December 5, 2010
at 2:18 am
Thanks for this commentary on drums in worship. One of the reasons that people like drums in worship is, as you pointed out, the fact that drums bring excitement to the worship service. While I do treasure exciting worship services in the sense of being moved by the Holy Spirit, I do not treasure “worship services” where it seems that the entire focus of “worship” is to move me emotionally (in contrast to my being or becoming spiritually moved). In fact, I fear that many in the church today mistake — to their own grave peril!! — emotional excitement for spiritual movement. Drums, when they are a significant part of the worship service, can and do contribute to this mistake. Drums also, because they excite emotionally and because they are so loud, allow people to overlook the shallowness and vapidity of so much of modern worship music, which is another problem plaguing the modern church.
By: Robert H. Woodman on December 5, 2010
at 6:29 am
Well said. And your last sentence is especially insightful. If you have never read my article Worship in Song, I encourage you to do so. I use Psalm 28:7 to show how real worship is supposed to work. The article also notes some weaker or false motivations for worship. God bless.
By: rcottrill on December 5, 2010
at 8:00 am
I left my former church because musical accompaniments of the hymns were incorporating more and more rock and jazz. I now attend a small Reformed Baptist Church in Mt. Pleasant, TX, where we sing a cappella out of the hymnal — with 4-part harmony — and it is wonderful. Teenagers and children are with their families in the services, and everyone sings. The Bible-expository sermons are an hour in length — I wish they were two. The hour drive for me is worth it. People come from all over East Texas.
Anyone reading this is welcome to contact me for more information.
cblairedit at aol dot com
By: Carol Blair on December 5, 2010
at 8:20 am
Sounds like my kinda church! I’m not Reformed in theology, but have preached in Reformed Baptist churches and had great fellowship there. Your description of the congregational singing I’ve experienced in Independent Baptist churches too. I’m certainly not against musical accompaniment if it supports the singing. But what you describe at the beginning tends to overpower and dominate. Lost is the joy of true fellowship in song, when you can’t even hear the person next to you. Combine hymn singing that features parts blending in harmony with good expository preaching, and you’ve definitely got a winner! No wonder you drive an hour for the blessing of it.
By: rcottrill on December 5, 2010
at 9:02 am
I must respectfully disagree. I believe that percussion can be very worshipful. One must be careful to not “lump” all percussion in with drums when discussing it. As was said in this post, percussion, aka. timpani and the like, can accent the sound when a full orchestra is present. That being said I do agree that in many American churches, the music is much more the focus than God is. I would argue, however, that this isn’t the fault of the drums, although, their misuse undoubtedly plays a part. Percussion has been used all around the world all throughout history to worship God. Percussion, such as cymbals and clapping (yes, that is percussion), is even mentioned in the Bible. Thus, one can’t simply rule it out entirely as detrimental to worship. I have the privilege of knowing Christians from Africa, where percussion is almost exclusively used to make music. Guitar is a novelty, and the organ is pretty much unheard of. Yet we can’t say that their service is somehow inferior to one with a “traditional” organ and such because the percussion distracts from the music.
As far as the use of percussion for keeping of meter goes, I believe percussion can be very useful. At the church I attend, while I love the church and I am not complaining, the hymns we sing tend to slow down as we progress. I would contend that this actually distracts from worship as well, and so defeats the purpose of avoiding the use of percussion anyway. Here, a certain amount of percussion, tastefully executed, would be of inestimable value, because it would keep the song on an even tempo.
Again, I agree with the author’s assessment of modern American “Christianity” for the most part, and I lament the degeneration of music in worship. I agree that church shouldn’t be a concert, and for much of America, that is just what it is. But such degeneracy in no way calls for a complete reversion to simply organ music or A Capella. Don’t get me wrong, such music is beautiful. My family sings a hymn every night A Capella. However, we cannot let the diluted and vapid music of popular Christianity cause us to “throw the baby out with the bath water” so to speak. The problem isn’t the instruments themselves. The problem is the people performing and the people listening. They are already weak in the walk with the Lord, assuming that they are walking with Him, so they are predisposed to consider the service entertainment. This predisposition simply is most obvious in the music. We must look at the root of the problem, not simply the symptoms, in order to arrive at a solution.
Percussion, even such as clapping, can greatly aid worship when said worship is joyful. We clap our hands to express joy everywhere, why should it stop when we enter the sanctuary to worship our Supreme Joy?
To be clear, I am in no way attacking the author of this post. To me, this isn’t important enough to get angry about. I am a devotee of Christian rock music, and the rock industry isn’t all secular. I listen to Christian bands that make music ranging from CCM to heavy metal. I even write and record rock music myself. I only want to encourage those who might read this to really consider percussion and the like, and not throw it out simply because many church misuse it. If I have missed the entire point of this post forgive me and disregard. This issue is just something that I’ve struggled with for a while, and I haven’t fully arrived an an answer either. I just want to encourage thought.
By: Andrew Cook on December 5, 2010
at 4:08 pm
Thanks for your gracious comments Andrew. You definitely have a point of view that will be shared by many. But I stand by my study of the Word of God, and my experience in many different churchs, over a period of 40 years or so. In many cases–though I won’t say all–drums and the amplified beat of a bass guitar are far more of a distraction than a help. That may be the culture of the day, but we need to base our decisions on God’s truth, not culture.
That’s kind of what the discussion in John 4:20-22 is about. The Samaritan woman was asking, in effect, “Whose culture is right, Yours or ours?” The answer given by many today would be, “Both. We mustn’t judge the cultural preferences of others.” But the Lord Jesus did not approve of Samaritan worship. He bluntly told her that they were wrong, and it was the Jews who were right.
Though I can enjoy instrumental companiment for congregational singing, it needs to be a support, not get in the way. Much better to do everything a capella than have that kind of carnal bedlam. More than once I’ve walked out of services where I’ve been assaulted by a deluge of sound from the platform. I feel as though my very soul is under attack.
By: rcottrill on December 5, 2010
at 5:06 pm
Bob. Thanks for this article, I think you are spot on with your evaluation of the subject. With your permission I’d like to file this article in my church Worship file for future reference.Sorry I didn’t get to N.B. for the annual get-to-gether. Maybe next year. Give my regards to Beth.
By: George Andres on December 5, 2010
at 4:19 pm
Mr. Cottrill, I can appreciate the sentiment behind your stance on drums in worship; however, I wonder if a more simplistic approach to worship might be considered.
It’s the heart of man that God hears, not the “resounding gong or clanging symbol”. Our instruments, whether our voices, harps or saxophones are at best an extension of our heart’s song to God. I must wonder if God differentiates between the praise of a lark and that of a walrus. Different sounds, yes, but praise all the same. I believe that Psalm 150 is a great reminder that all that we have, we owe Him.
The enemy has already taken so much from us. Must we also give him our instruments? They were God’s first.
By: rebija on December 6, 2010
at 10:12 am
H-m-m… Well, several things in your post deserve comment. First, as to the thought that it’s the heart of man that God hears, not our instruments and our music: It is quite true that “the Lord looks at the heart” (I Sam. 16:7). However, the music we make arises from our hearts (our inner values and motivations), and it too is important. One reason is that human beings can’t see into our hearts as God does. They must take the music we present as a testimony of what we believe, and what’s important to us. “And if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare for battle” (I Cor. 14:8).
The idea that the devil threatens to take our instruments, and “they were God’s first,” is not precisely true. God created all things, calling into being ex nihilo the elements that are the building blocks of the natural world. In that sense we can say that He is the Origin of the brass and wood and other materials of which our instruments are made. However, it is human beings that make musical instruments, as well as write and perform songs. And the moment we add the human element we introduce the factor of moral choice. Motives can be good or evil. How is that instrument used? What is the purpose of that musical style? Or that song? Then, there is another principle beyond personal motivation to consider.
A religious rock band may say that their purpose is to glorify God with their shouted lyrics and thundering beat, but they cannot escape the important principle of association. Associations are powerful. When I smell roasting turkey, even in July, my mind turns to thoughts of Christmas! My brain makes an automatic connection with the holidays. So, what does the music just mentioned bring to the mind of the average listener? The contemporary rock music of the world, by the admission of many of its stars, is intended to communicate rebellion against authority, and glorify sexual immorality. How can that provide a suitable framework for the worship of God?
Some years ago, I was on the pastoral staff of a large church in Ontario. One particular evening, a rather raucous contemporary band played in the service (unusual for us). A young fellow in his 20’s came to me afterward, quite upset. “What are they doing playing that kind of music here?” he asked. “I left the bar scene to get away from that!”
The church needs a music that is clearly distinguishable from that which is heard elsewhere. A holy music, separated unto the service of God. We don’t need to apologize for being different. We are different. And our music should show it, just as other things in our lives should. As noted in my article, I’m not against the use of percussion instruments per se, when they are used occasionally for emphasis, and are kept in balance with other instruments. But I do think we dishonour the Lord with the way some are being used today in what is thought of as contemporary worship.
By: rcottrill on December 6, 2010
at 11:39 am
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at 1:56 pm
As a musician, I think that the “I must decrease” element is the most important of all.
Many Church band musicians are mistaken when they think they are glorifying God. They are often glorifying themselves.
Also, if the performance aspect of playing is paramount, that takes away from the worship aspect of it.
In all, music probably should be kept to a minimum.
By: jack on December 12, 2010
at 7:31 pm
Some interesting observations. Thanks! Not sure I necessarily agree that “music…should be kept to a minimum.” Certainly, we don’t need more performances to entertain, or accompaniment that drowns out the congregation. But we need a congregational fellowship in song, employing the great hymns of the faith, with God’s people singing to “one another,” and “to the Lord” (Col. 3:16).
By: rcottrill on December 12, 2010
at 7:41 pm
It sounds like you believe that other instruments are appropriate in worship(which I agree with entirely). My question is, is it your opinion that drum(kits) should be removed from worship mainly because of the association with the music that the world uses drums for? And if so, are there other instruments that fall under the same category?
By: Remy on October 7, 2011
at 4:07 pm
Thanks for your question. Association is certainly one of the factors involved. But what I’m particularly concerned about is the way many churches allow drums and amplified guitars to dominate, often overpowering the singing of the congregation. Drums in the percussion section of an orchestra–that’s quite different. Percussion is used there from time to time for accent, but it does not consistently overpower everything else. Any instrument can be abused, including a church organ. But it’s clear that in the contemporary musical culture, drums and guitars are expected to provide a driving beat and an overpowering “experience.”
God’s people should be careful not to copy the world in this. I’ve been in churches where the congregation has been robbed of the joy of singing together because they simply can’t hear one another! Further, it becomes much more difficult to meditate on the message expressed in the words of the songs. On a couple of occasions, I’ve simply walked out of this bedlam.
By: rcottrill on October 7, 2011
at 10:27 pm
Ah I see. Well like you(and many other people), I enjoy and appreciate the talents of any musician outside of worship.
However, it seems to me that the instruments most used in secular music change from time to time, and from genre to genre. For instance, Country/Western uses the acoustic guitar, violin, and pedal steel; more and more modern secular artists use keyboards and acoustics; Bluegrass uses the banjo and mandolin; Honky-tonk uses the piano; not to mention our good friend the organ, which is a staple of rock music. These genres all use these particular instruments for purposes other than God’s glory. I guess my question is, since these genres use these different instruments as much as other genres use drums and guitars, what’s the difference, and are these instruments even ok in worship?
By: Remy on October 9, 2011
at 9:18 pm
H-m-m… Well, association is an important factor to consider. I can remember a fellow coming up to me after a service. (I wasn’t in charge, but he knew of my studies in Christian music.) He said of the service, “What are they doing using that kind of music in here? That’s what I left the bars to get away from?” Missionaries in some areas face the same challenge. A week ago I was talking with a man who works among a remote tribe in Papua New Guinea. Everything they do is steeped in animism. And when they get saved, and start studying the Word of God, they have to develop a whole new way of looking at the world. Their music is affected too. They can’t simply take the old chants and songs and put some Christian words to them. The former association is too strong.
Paul faced this issue with regard to meat offered to idols (I Cor. 8:1-13). It was the practice to take the meat offered to idols in heathen temples down to the market place afterward, and sell it. After all, the idol wasn’t going to eat it! And often it was excellent meat. Some Christians had no problem buying and eating that meat. Others were appalled. Perhaps because they had been saved out of idolatry, their conscience bothered them about it. Paul had these strong words for the meat eaters: “When you thus sin against the brethren, and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. Therefore, if food makes my brother stumble, I will never again eat meat, lest I make my brother stumble” (I Cor. 8:12-13).
Some congregations seem to have settled the matter, and have a clear-cut music policy. Others struggle with it. Sometimes, this may be because they are determined to appease those with worldly tastes, and hope to keep them attending. In effect, the tail ends up wagging the dog. If there is godly spiritual leadership, and a motivation to keep as far away from the world as possible, rather than playing with fire and a cosseting of worldly values, these things will work themselves out. It might, in fact, be good for a church where the standard is uncertain to abandon the use of all musical instruments for a time.
I’m not sure that would work in every case. But it just might have a truly beneficial effect. It would tend to focus attention more on the words of the hymns–where it belongs. And it could, with a bit of instruction and practice, help the congregation to discover the joys of singing in harmony! Give a listen to what’s happening in the video clip below. It’s a gathering made up mostly of teens and young adults. There is a bit of accompaniment. But it either drops out entirely, or is so overpowered by the singing that it’s hardly noticeable. I’d love to have been there! Spine-tingling!
By: rcottrill on October 10, 2011
at 8:24 am
Mr. Shaw has posted a lengthy comment on my article expressing reservations on the use of drums in Christian worship. Rather than posting a separate response, I’ve integrated my comments with his (given in part), with Mr. Shaw’s being printed in italics.
As a Christian first, and a percussionist second, I must say that the arguments presented here are well-researched and present several good points.
Thanks for your encouragement. It’s a subject I’ve studied for many years. I also taught a college course on a philosophy of music for years, and have heard most of the arguments you mention many times. Let me see if I can address a few of them.
1) The Gospel of John (1:3, KJV) makes a very clear statement: “All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.” So, it would be impossible to disagree with the fact that even – eek! DRUMS! – were made by God.
No, it’s not “impossible” at all. God did not make drums. The reference in John has to do with Christ, as a member of the Trinity, being an active Agent in the creation of the world, “in the beginning” (vs. 2; cf. Gen. 1:1). His role as the Creator is also stated clearly by the Apostle Paul (Col. 1:16).
With your claim you seek to remove drums from any possible criticism. After all, if God made them, who are we to criticize? Just remember that God made the devil too. But we’d better not assume that he is harmless! The fact is, God didn’t make drums, He made people. And it’s people who, for good or ill, make things (including drums, and guns and toothpicks), and it’s people who use them, for wholesome or destructive purposes.
2) To say that drums do not belong in worship music is narrow-minded and religious. It is no different than saying that females should not work – they should stay home and cook and clean and have babies. To make this argument causes confusion and division in and of itself.
Oh my! There are several claims here that are worthy of comment. Let’s start with the term “narrow-minded.” (I’m not, here, addressing the matter of drums, but simply the principle of narrowness.) I realize it’s used in this case as a pejorative, but I’m willing to embrace it. If one is a Bible-believing Christian, intent on living a holy life, the Word of God itself marks out a narrow path. Many Scriptures could be appealed to in this regard.
The Lord Jesus warned that the way to life was through a narrow gate (Matt. 7:13-14), and He told His hearers that He came not to bring peace but a sword, referring to the way in which following Him would even divide families (Matt. 10:34-36). Second Corinthians exhorts us to “separate” ourselves from the taint of sin and worldliness, “perfecting holiness in the fear of God” (II Cor. 6:14–7:1). First John tells us that if we love the things of this sinful world, we cannot at the same time claim to love God (I Jn. 2:15-17). “Whoever therefore wants to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God” (Jas. 4:4).
So often “what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God” (Lk. 16:15). The Lord warned Israel that when they conquered the Promised Land they should beware of trying to incorporate the practices of the heathen into their worship style–which for the Canaanites even included child sacrifice. The Lord said, “Whatever I command you, be careful to observe it; you shall not add to it nor take away from it” (Deut. 12:29-32). A narrow path yet again. Warnings about straying from the precise pattern God sets out are found many times under the Law (e.g. Deut. 5:32; 17:11, 20; Josh. 1:7; 23:6; Prov. 4:27; Isa. 30:21). To wander off the narrow way is to be a worldly, carnal believer, not living a life pleasing to God.
Now, as to the accusation that I’m “religious,” which you mention several times. A religious person is simply one who shows by his actions that he fears and worships God (or a god). Even though this is another term sometimes used in a negative sense, it’s actually a good thing–with a couple of qualifications. To fear and worship false gods, as the Athenians did (Acts 17:16, 22-23) is wrong. As it is to think that somehow our conduct will earn us acceptance with God, as the self-righteous Pharisees did. Paul abandoned that false notion when he turned to Christ (Phil. 3:4-9).
James puts us on the right track. He says the right kind of “religion” demonstrates the love of Christ to others, and avoids the contamination of worldliness (Jas. 1:28-29). To somehow skew this exhortation to follow a righteous lifestyle, making it synonymous with the idea that “females should not work – they should stay home and cook and clean and have babies” is, of course, ridiculous! (As is your later contention that it’s like “the disciples of Christ shooing away the little children.”)
3) Do you have comfortable seating in your church? How about a roof? Heat? Walls? All of these things are “of the world” and therefore should not be part of the church. Jesus did not have a place to lay His head (Matthew 8:20), so does that mean that Christians should not have beds or pillows?
The Bible says “the time is short” before Christ’s return, and we should therefore be as “ those who use this world as not misusing it. For the form of this world is passing away” (I Cor. 7:29, 31). Use, but don’t misuse or abuse. If things such as roofs and walls were treated as unrighteous in the Word of God, I suppose we’d all have to move to the tropics–but that’s not the case. Or if they had a clear association with sinful and worldly practices in the minds of many, it might be the same–but they don’t. This is not a specious argument. It wasn’t the rich fool’s desire to build bigger barns that proved his folly, but his failure to also prepare for eternity (Lk. 12:16-21).
4) I give much value to historical context, but also have a mind to realize that the different cultures of the world not only differ in a historical context, but also a geographical one. Our culture is not the same as the culture when the traditional hymns were written, nor is it the same as the days of Christ. To imply that drumming is satanic is so far off course. Drums are made by God, and when used tastefully to praise Him, drums bring glory to God – simply because they were made by Him….The Christian world needs to simply wake up and stop putting “biblical limits” on the church.
Yes, culture and tradition comes into the picture too, along with historical context. But it’s important to keep a couple of things in mind. First, not all cultures or traditions are equal in terms of their moral or religious qualities. It was an argument based on culture and tradition that the Samaritan woman raised with the Lord Jesus when she said, “Our fathers worshipped on this mountain, and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where one ought to worship,” (Jn. 4:20). She was challenging Christ to debate with her whose culture was correct. Modern political correctness might have dictated a softer answer, but the Lord’s response was basically that the Samaritan tradition was wrong, and the Jews had it right (vs. 22).
Second, I’ve already commented on the fallacy that “drums are made by God,” and I’ve never said that all uses of drums are “satanic.” But it’s definitely a mistake to think that taking things from a corrupt culture, things that have a strong heathen and carnal association, and simply bringing them inside the doors of a church will christianize them and make them acceptable for godly worship.
Percussion instruments in an orchestra or symphonic band are surrounded by many instruments which are able to keep them in balance with melody and harmony. The classical music of the eighteenth century demonstrates that. But a definite change in music began to take place in the nineteenth century due to the influence of tens of thousands of slaves kidnapped and brought to America.
Almost every African culture used dominating and rhythmic drumming in its heathen worship and religious rituals. The adrenalin-pumping excitement of this tradition was slowly assimilated into the music of the Western world. Its rhythms and beats came to strongly influence jazz, the “big band” sound, and Rock and Roll. Since this secular music fills the air waves, and is listened to by many for hours each day, it’s difficult for me, and others like me, to hear it used in the worship of the holy Son of God. As to your plea to “stop putting biblical limits on the church”–Ouch! The moment the local church stops doing that it stops being a church.
5) We need to stop debating such small things as this….Stop focusing on minuscule things.
Labelling this issue a small and minuscule thing is interesting. It clearly raised your ire, and led you to spend about 750 words presenting your own point of view, sometimes in a rather harsh and judgmental way. Sadly, you frequently descend to stereotyping and name-calling. That any church not willing to use drums is adhering to “self-righteous rules” and is not a “missionary” church, evangelizing the lost, is simply not so. I’ve been in churches, and preached in churches, where there’s not a drum in sight. The worship glows with spiritual ardour, and the churches are growing as a result of their evangelistic outreach.
I’ve also been in services where no instruments of any kind are used. The singing is filled with rich harmonies, and the pace is such that we can focus on the message of each hymn. In some ways I prefer this. There seems to be a greater sense of fellowship in the singing. Having said that though, I’m not against musical accompaniment, as long as it doesn’t overpower the singing and draw undue attention to itself.
Almost any instrument can do this, of course. But in my experience it’s drums and amplified guitars that are most often the culprits today–sometimes because of the misguided desire to be just like the world, so worldly people will feel more at home in the church. If they can be used in moderation, fine. But I think they are an unnecessary and dangerous intrusion all too open to abuse. I stand by the content of my article as being a point of view at least worthy of careful consideration.
By: Brad Shaw on September 16, 2012
at 8:21 pm
I enjoyed your article on “Drums in Worship – Appropriate or Not?” I think it was the best online article that I have read. As it happens, I agree with you completely. Like yourself, I too, find myself running out of church services because my spirit it grieved. I assume that the Spirit was grieved which, in turn, grieved my spirit.
My question to you is this: There are no churches in my local area that do NOT use drums and electric guitars in their worship service. What am I to do? My answer has been to stay home and allow the studying of the Word to edify me on Sunday morning. I am tired of being grieved with the world in the local congregation ( I refrain from using the word church because the true Church does not exist in these places). I have read many online articles that endorse staying home rather than being a part of a worldly service. I am torn as to what to do. Am I disobeying Hebrews 10.25? Will I come under the Lord’s discipline for this attitude? Does the Lord expect me to love the brethren, nonetheless, regardless of the music being used?
Anything you could advise me on will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Stephen
By: STEPHEN on December 18, 2012
at 8:36 am
Greetings, Stephen, and the joy of the Christmas season to you and yours. Thank you for your kind words.
You ask some very good questions. I wish I had simple, straightforward answers, but I don’t. Those of us who don’t want our hymn singing degraded by a carnal beat, drowned out by unholy noise, or simply abandoned in favour of shallow choruses, are often in the minority.
Going back many years, my uncle and aunt lived in a small, remote hamlet. They had no car. And the only church in town tended to be liberal in its doctrinal position. But this elderly couple–who by their own testimony were born again Christians, attended that church, because they believed God’s people should do so on the Lord’s Day, and they wanted to set a good example.
Now, there’s a bit of a catch. My uncle was almost stone deaf, so he wasn’t going to be corrupted by what was said from the pulpit. I’m not sure I’d make the same choice he did, but one gentleman I spoke with more recently voiced a similar problem to yours. He said he felt forced to choose between sound biblical preaching, and God-honouring music, because he couldn’t find a church that had both! What a tragedy!
I’m a retired pastor, and the church my wife and I have attended in recent years is conservative, and has always used mainly the great hymns and gospel songs of the faith, accompanied by piano, or piano and organ. We have two or three hymn books, and have occasionally changed from one to the other, to make use of some songs not found in both.
We are currently without a pastor, and seeking the Lord’s will in that, and I’ve certainly wondered about the future. What if we get a new pastor who favours “contemporary” music as a means of pulling in more people from the community? How far in that direction would the pendulum swing? I’m afraid I wouldn’t feel comfortable continuing to attend, if things reached the point of some churches today.
Would I simply stay home? Maybe. There is a church about forty-five minutes from us that is similarly conservative in the music used. But will it continue to be? And with my advancing age, and the difficulty driving sometimes during our Canadian winters, would that be a practical solution?
I have experience as a preacher, and as a musician and service leader, so my case may be different from yours. But one idea I had was to offer my services to the local seniors home–to come in on Sundays and conduct services. My wife plays the piano, and I think we could provide a time that would be a blessing to the residents, by God’s grace.
And I had another idea as I was considering your comments. It might not work; I have no assurance that it would. But I wondered about putting an ad in the paper, seeking people of like mind. It would be important to keep the tone from being negative. As I see it, it shouldn’t be critical of drums and guitars and the like.
There are many sincere and godly Christian people in churches whose music has deteriorated. Maybe they are staying there and enduring it, hoping things will change. Or maybe they have been convinced that what is happening is right. We should not adopt a holier-than-thou attitude, but simply see if there’s interest in an alternative. Perhaps the ad could say something like this:
It might get no response at all. Rather, identifying others who share your convictions may require seeking them out, one by one, or family by family, through other channels. If you could find even eight or ten people who’d meet together, I know it could be a wonderful experience.
After a time of singing, there could be some light refreshments, and a discussion as to whether the meetings could become a regular thing–even once or twice a month. (And it wouldn’t have to be at a time that conflicted with anyone’s church services.) The meetings could take place in homes (unless the group got too large for that). A supply of hymn books might be available from one of the churches that’s not using them any more.
It’s possible you could attract folks from several different denominations. I wouldn’t worry about that. You’re not starting a new church, or a new denomination. If folks love the Lord Jesus, and are interested in enjoying and preserving our wonderful heritage of hymns, that should be a good enough basis for fellowship. Set a positive tone, and avoid arguing over doctrinal distinctives.
As I say, it’s just an idea. On the issue you raise of disobeying God by failing to meet together with other Christians (as Hebrews 10:25 says we should), keep in mind that not all gatherings of Christians have to take place in church services. You may find believers, even in churches with music that concerns you, who would enjoy a time of fellowship away from the church. Do you bowl? Or play golf? What about crokinole? Or do you enjoy some other wholesome activity that you could join in with other believers?
In my blog I have links to the Cyber Hymnal. Many times I’ve helped the creator, Dick Adams, find information on the hymns he’s posted, and he’s passed on to me comments he’s received about the site. In some countries where it’s forbidden for Christians to meet together, groups will sometimes gather around the computer, in a home, call up a hymn on the Cyber Hymnal, and sing it together.
These aren’t really providing specific answers, but maybe something I’ve said will give you an idea or two. Let me (and my readers) know if you find a practical alternative.
By: rcottrill on December 18, 2012
at 11:34 am
Am I to understand that it would be honoring the Lord for me to forsake Sunday morning worship and perhaps get with a group of believers within the same congregation on another night for bible study? Would this fulfill Hebrew 10.25? This question is in response when you wrote: As I say, its just an idea. On the issue you raise of disobeying God by failing to meet together with other Christians (as Hebrews 10:25 says we should), keep in mind that not all gatherings of Christians have to take place in church services. You may find believers, even in churches with music that concerns you, who would enjoy a time of fellowship away from the church. Do you bowl? Or play golf? What about crokinole? Or do you enjoy some other wholesome activity that you could join in with other believers?
If this is what you meant, then I suppose that would work out for me. Thanks for your interest in my situation. What you wrote was helpful to me. Stephen
By: Stephen Hebbe on December 18, 2012
at 12:26 pm
Well, I’m glad if I can be of help in some small way. But I do need to clarify what I said.
I’m definitely not saying that playing golf with some Christians is the same as going to church with them, or is a complete substitute for church. Only that it could be a means of enriching Christian fellowship. An organized church, with a believing membership and godly leaders, has many functions. I hope that somehow you can find a church that you feel able to attend regularly, even if you don’t agree with everything that goes on there. (No local church is perfect, since all are made up of imperfect people.)
I know of a woman who drives about an hour each Sunday to attend a church in another town, because what’s available in her own community is not satisfactory (and music is one of the issues). Maybe you could find something at a distance you’d be willing to travel to attend. I pray that the Lord will give you wisdom.
By: rcottrill on December 18, 2012
at 12:43 pm
I think drums can not be accepted in church. I prefer to stay home rather than to go at a church with drums.I do not agree with you that if drums are included in a orchestra, bass, etc. they are OK. They are not OK,because the place of drums is not in a church!
By: Christian on December 26, 2014
at 10:33 am
Thanks for sharing your views. I guess my point was that the use of percussion depends on how they are used, and whether or not they dominate. In a 90-piece symphony orchestra there are instruments of various kinds, including percussion instruments, carefully blended and balanced. That is quite different from what is happening in some churches today, where the repetitious beat of drums seems to dominate the singing.
By: rcottrill on December 26, 2014
at 11:39 am
Thank you for the time you have given to this site. Very helpful and timely.
By: anchance2 on January 26, 2013
at 12:08 am
By the same logic pianos should be banned from church. They are not mentioned in the Bible, and not used in church until the 1800’s. Until the 1800’s the piano was considered a secular instrument unfit for church. Furthermore, the modern church style of piano is derived from the popular jazz of the 1920’s.
The anti-drum argument is classic case of broken logic, in this case starting with a dislike of drums and then “proving” the case with carefully selected facts rather then the whole picture. I have no problem with your dislike of drums in church, but don’t condemn drums unless you are willing to apply the same logic to other instruments.
By the same token many popular hymns we derived from the drinking songs of the day and/or written by deeply flawed men. Should we condemn those as well? Jesus said we are to love one another, and in that spirit I will allow hymns and the piano in my church if you will allow drums in yours.
By: Leland on February 28, 2013
at 11:41 am
H-m-m… Thanks for your comments. However, I see some problems with what you’ve said. Let me just respond to a few things.
1) I never stated that drums should be “banned from church.” Nor did I “condemn” them. (Neither term is found in the article.) I simply attempted to raise a caution flag with regard to their use. Percussion instruments can have a function, if they are used wisely. And yes, the same goes for pianos (and organs too)–though an instrument that gives support to both melody and harmony is quite different from a drum.
2) You suggest that “the modern church style of piano is derived from the popular jazz of the late 1920’s.” Well, I don’t know where you go to church, but I haven’t heard anything close to that in our church. My wife is our accompanist, so perhaps I’m prejudiced :-), but I’d describe her playing style as generally legato (meaning smooth and connected).
3) You state categorically that “many popular hymns were derived from the drinking songs of the day.” This old chestnut has been around for years, but it’s no truer today than it’s ever been. Can you give me a list of the “many” hymns whose melodies used to be drinking songs? I’ll be happy to check them out, but I know the list will be very, very small.
4) As to “deeply flawed men”–you should add women too, since we have many women hymn writers. Three things to keep in mind:
5) You note that the Lord Jesus says we are to “love one another.” True enough (Jn. 13:35). However, I detect an implied application of this command which may not be biblical. A kind of live-and-let-live approach that tolerates any and all points of view. I know that spirit is abroad in the professing church today, but we need to resist it.
If there’s something that’s too closely associated with worldliness or carnality, or which violates biblical principles, we’re to separate ourselves from it (II Cor. 6:14–7:1). Further, the Lord defines love for Him not in terms of concessions and compromise, but in terms of obedience to His Word (Jn. 14:15, 21, 23, 24; 15:10; cf. I Jn. 2:5-6).
Certainly there’s room in the Christian community for differences in worship style.. In areas where we disagree, we do need to be gracious to one another, and consider our differences prayerfully and carefully. But we also need to seek to have Bible-based convictions in these areas, and not compromise on what we believe to be right in the name of “love.”
I hope these few thoughts are helpful. God bless.
By: rcottrill on February 28, 2013
at 1:25 pm
Excellent reply, Robert.
By: rhwoodman on February 28, 2013
at 8:41 pm
I decided to stop reading about half way through. I am married to a drummer, and an excellent one at that. He works hard to bring excellence to the gift God has given him. Your distraction is his act of worship. I am sure my opinion is biased, but it appears yours is too. I think it is sad when churches, by churches I mean people… try to box people in to a gift or a talent that fits ‘your’ idea of worship. Worship isn’t your idea, nor should it be. It’s God’s design/idea for Him, not you. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/worship It’s not for you, sure it benefits you or not, but it’s their worship to their King. How dare anyone come in, regarding any gift and say, “I am sorry, your gift is not fit for your King”. Thank God that he sees the heart of every man and weighs true intent.
By: thirstynomore on October 29, 2015
at 12:07 pm
Well! I’m sorry my article simply made you angry, and didn’t help you to consider another point of view. My first clue to that is that you say you only read half the article. So, maybe there’s some food for thought there that you missed.
Having written the piece some years ago, I thought I’d better have another look, and did so. In it, I point out, up front, that there are widely varying opinions on the use of drums in worship. Then, I simply proceed to give my view on the subject, and some of the reasons for my position.
Far be it from me to come between you and your husband, but the fact that he is an excellent drummer, who works hard at it, is not necessarily an argument in their favour. But your statement that his drumming is an act of worship does give us something to chew on. Are you suggesting that whatever individuals claim is an act of worship in their hearts is suitable to be done in the house of God?
It seems so, because you say, “I think it is sad when churches…try to box people in to a gift or a talent that fits ‘your’ [their?] idea of worship.” First of all, I (personally) am not a church. Second, my personal convictions on any subject do not put you in a box, any more than yours put me in a box. We are simply sharing points of view, trying to help each other find our way.
However, let’s consider what happens in a local church. Are you saying that the leadership does not have a responsibility to reject anything they deem unworthy of having a place in the worship services? Of course they do (Heb. 13:7, 17). And a desire for excellence is only part of it, as is what’s going on in the individual’s heart.
To have corporate worship, there must be some kind of consensus that what is done leads the group in worship, not just the individual performer. So, to take what may or may not be an extreme example, if a woman says she wants to offer to God her gyrating dance, performed in a significant state of undress, as worship, must the leaders agree to allow it in a worship service? No. God forbid. It would likely awaken in many men thoughts of a different kind!
There must be limits. “Everything should be done in a fitting and orderly way” (I Cor. 14:40, NIV). Or, “All things should be done with regard to decency and propriety and in an orderly fashion” (Amplified Bible).
Which gets us to the consideration of how we decide what is worshipful and what is not. You say that worship isn’t my idea but God’s. Quite true. But then you offer the definition of a secular dictionary. These sometimes can be helpful, but sometimes not. It’s more important, since worship is God’s idea, that we concentrate on what He has to say about it in His Word. Some form of words such as worship and praise are used about 450 times in the Bible, so there’s lots of material to draw on.
One of the things we see there is that human tradition, and cultural influences can be wrong. The Samaritan woman said to the Lord Jesus, “Our fathers worshiped on this mountain [i.e. this is our tradition], and you Jews say that in Jerusalem is the place where one ought to worship” (Jn. 4:20). She’s really asking for the Lord’s input on whose tradition is right.
But He answers bluntly, “You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews” (vs. 22). (Weymouth has, “You worship One of whom you know nothing.”) In other words, your tradition is wrong, and you’re ignorant of the truth. God has revealed Himself and what He requires through the Jews (cf. Rom. 3:1-2).
The reality is that sometimes, “what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God” (Lk. 16:15). When the people of the nation of Israel were being prepared to enter the land of Canaan that God had promised to them, He warned them not to incorporate heathen practices into their worship.
“Take heed to yourself that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed from before you, and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, ‘How did these nations serve their gods? I also will do likewise.’ You shall not worship the LORD your God in that way; for every abomination to the LORD which He hates they have done to their gods; for they burn even their sons and daughters in the fire to their gods” (Deut. 12:30-31).
Am I saying that drumming fits into this category? Not necessarily. But I hear from many people, in various parts of the world, who see drums as a hindrance, rather than a help to their worship. And if we insist that it couldn’t possibly be the Spirit of God who is prompting those convictions, we’d better have very solid and biblical reasons for saying so.
Thank you for your response. I encourage you to keep on seeking God’s best, and I will do likewise.
By: rcottrill on October 30, 2015
at 8:20 am
One just needs to go inside a local church building to know if the drum beats dominate their services. The drum set is placed at the center of the stage with mic stands, as though ready for a concert… with lights ready. The only thing missing is a disco light ball.
By: Mike on January 11, 2016
at 8:57 pm
When the worship music includes a drum kit, not only do I get a headache, but I feel disconnected from worshiping God. I do not feel the closeness that is there when the music is acoustic and without drums. It feels like a show. It feels fake. I think evening concerts or special music service or something would be a better place for a drum kit. I miss hearing my fellow worshipers sing around me.
The drum kit trend has taken a lot away for me. I now tend to come to church late–in order to avoid having my head accosted by this wall of loud disconnected music–and hear the sermon and then leave early. This defeats half of the purpose. It’s sad. It is off-putting. I miss the music that was not a big show and production.
The traditional services don’t usually do any contemporary worship songs. And the contemporary ones are no longer beautiful and reverent, or peppy and happy, but rather attack mode worship songs. Like the musicians are trying to run us all out of the church, rather than welcome us in. I don’t think a wall of sound is the thing to be going for.
By: Ac on March 30, 2016
at 1:50 am
H-m-m… You do seem to be describing an extreme case, but in general I agree with you. Some of the best singing in church I’ve ever heard was without accompaniment of any kind–and I’ve had that experience with just a handful of people, and a group of 1500. There’s more of a sense of fellowship in song.
As to the contemporary songs, there are some good ones, but they tend to be more narrow in subject matter. Used exclusively, they rob the congregation of the depth of centuries of hymnody. I defend the traditional hymns and gospel songs in this blog to give those who’ve abandoned them a second look.
By: rcottrill on March 30, 2016
at 7:58 am
Actually, I haven’t found a church in my area that doesn’t do it. so they are all extreme I guess haha. I love the contemporary and the traditional hymns. I am put off by loud drum sets no matter the song. Thanks for the reply!
By: Ac on March 30, 2016
at 10:37 am
I am fascinated to read that other Christians are being convicted about the use of drums in Church services. As I seek to pursue a closer walk with Christ, I have began to feel convicted about this very issue. This has been extremely difficult for me, because I come from a culture that is literary wedded to drum-music, but whose history involves the use of drums to conjure up ‘spiritual experiences’ that excite people. I am encouraged to see that other Christians are beginning to question the use of drums in Church services.
By: Elodie on June 7, 2016
at 3:23 am
Thanks for your comments. Without question, repetitive drumming can stir up excitement. Jungle tribes have known that for millennia, and secular rockers know it too. It’s surprising–and sad–that some churches haven’t recognized it, and they think what they’re feeling is a spiritual “blessing.” I still remember the comment of a young man, perhaps in his mid-twenties. After a church service he said to me, “What are they doing playing that kind of music here? That’s what I left the bars to get away from!”
I have no problem with musical accompaniment to singing, if it enhances and supports it, and otherwise stays in the background. But let’s suppose, for a moment that we attend a church where no musical instruments are used. Where does the “excitement” come from then? It comes, in part, from a sense of fellowship in song–because we can actually hear one another clearly. We’re testifying to “one another” through music, as Scripture says we should (Col. 3:16). But a true heart experience also comes, when meaningful hymns are sung, from a realization of the truths we are expressing. Which is as it should be.
I was preaching at a church last Sunday and was interested in the technique of the service leader. Before several hymns were song, the leader made brief comments on their historical background, and on the important message of the song. Then, we were all able to participate more meaningfully. “Well done!” I thought. “May its tribe increase.” God bless you.
By: rcottrill on June 7, 2016
at 7:45 am
Absolutely agree. We have lost something very precious. The most wonderful instruments created? The human voice. I ache inside for pure worship to return.
By: Charule b on December 3, 2017
at 9:50 am
Thanks so much for the encouragement. I hear from many with the same sorrow–and only very rarely from those who (angrily) disagree. (One pastor told me I was dividing the church, and he was glad he’d be able to play his drums in heaven!) Drums are distracting and unnecessary, and they simply bring the ways of the heathen world into the church.
I heard from a couple, not long ago, who had just moved to a new city, and were frustrated because they could not find a church with God-honouring music. They wanted my advice and help. I couldn’t give them much, but suggested they find a few like-minded families and have a monthly hymn-sing in one of their homes.
By: rcottrill on December 3, 2017
at 10:11 am
Actually, I think any music in the church is distracting. Can’t we just lift our voices together in prayer, and be worshipful and quiet? I even find loud preaching to be offensive. No instruments of music in the church. We are supposed to be called out from the world, and worship in spirit and truth. How can you pray and be thinking about music at the same time? I don’t need a preacher up in front shouting at me. A church is supposed to be a quiet place to be still before the Lord. All this singing in the church is distracting from true worship. I’m sure that there was no such thing in the beginning church,why do we need it now? Jesus sang a hymn, but it was not in a church. The church is to be a place of worship, not a place for music. Good music is great,but not in church.
We can praise the Lord together without singing. Christian songs should be sung, but not in the church. If we do that, then the problem of music will be solved. No more controversy. And good preaching should be delivered in a conversational tone, quietly, and without all this animation and pulpit pounding.
By: Bob on July 12, 2018
at 10:46 am
Well! You definitely take an extreme position, but it’s food for thought. Let me deal with the use of instruments and the use of singing separately.
About Instrumental Music
1) I know of no text that expressing forbids the use of musical instruments in the corporate worship and testimony of God’s people. We know that instrumental music was used in the worship of Israel (I Chron. 15:16–and for a more detailed description of this, see my article Sacred Music in the Old Testament). We also know that there are at least harps used future worship (Rev. 5:8-10; 14:1-3; 15:2-4).
So, what about today. You are “sure that there was no such thing in the beginning church,” but I’m not so clear on that. Whether or not instrumental music was used in the early church we simply do not know for certain. It’s not mentioned, but it’s difficult to prove a point from silence. What I’m saying here is that we don’t have a biblical warrant to totally reject or forbid the use of all instruments in the services of the church.
What is the value of instruments there? Used properly, they support the singing, keep it on pitch and on the right tempo and so on. They can also supplement the preaching of the Word. Truths that are proclaimed from the pulpit can be reinforced and carried homeward with a song that sticks in the memory. If instrumentalists play a familiar song, they can also be a blessing by guiding our meditation when worshipers are silent. For example, when the elements of the Lord’s Supper are distributed, the quiet playing of When I Survey the Wondrous Cross can help to guide our thoughts in that direction.
I’ve been in services where a piano was used to accompany singing, and where an organ was used–and where both were used together. I’ve also been in services where a full orchestra was used, and others that utilized a brass band. However, having said that, I’ve been in other services where no instruments were used at all, and it was very effective. It’s really either/or, and up to the individual group. There’s something to be said for the simple uniting of voices in song unaccompanied, especially when folks are able to harmonize in parts-singing. I encourage churches that use instruments to try this, at least occasionally.
My main concern is with the modern trends of loudness, and a dominating beat that either overpowers the singing, or turns it into something that does not honour the Lord. To have a group “ministering” in song with accompaniment that is so loud we can’t discern the words being sung is wrong. There are reasons why the world uses this style of music, but those reasons are often carnal, and not in keeping with what we should be doing in the house of God.
About Singing
First of all, my previous point about music on Old Testament times, and music in the heavenly kingdom, includes not only instruments but vocal music. And singing God’s praises is mentioned over fifty times in Psalms. “Oh come, let us sing to the Lord! Let us shout joyfully to the Rock of our salvation. Let us come before His presence with thanksgiving; let us shout joyfully to Him with psalms” (Ps. 95:1-2). Unless we take a hyper-dispensational position and say that only applied before the cross, it would seem to support God’s people singing together at any time.
To this can be added a very explicit text directed to the church: “Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom, teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord” (Col. 3:16; cf. Eph. 5:19).
Not only is singing not forbidden when the saints gather, we expressly exhorted in the above text to include it. We are to sing to “one another,” for teaching and testimony, and sing “to the Lord” in worship and prayer. The context shows that Paul is also addressing the assembly of Christians when he says, “I will sing with the spirit, and I will also sing with the understanding” (I Cor. 14:15).
You say, “Jesus sang a hymn, but it was not in a church.” First, you should note that this was singing they all did (“when they had sung a hymn…” Matt. 26:30). Congregational singing :-). You are correct in saying this was not in a church. But the Lord was introducing an important ceremony on that occasion that was to be a regular part of Christian worship on the other side of Pentecost (vs. 26-28; cf. I Cor. 11:23-25).
And you say, “the church is to be a place of worship, not a place for music,” as though those two things cannot go together. Many times we’re told in Psalms to “sing praises” to the Lord. I realize this predates the church era, but my point here is that the praise of God and music belong together. “Sing praises to God, sing praises! Sing praises to our King, sing praises! For God is the King of all the earth; sing praises with understanding” (Ps. 47:6-7–five times in two verses!). “Praise the Lord! For it is good to sing praises to our God; for it is pleasant, and praise is beautiful” (Ps. 147:7).
You also say, “A church is supposed to be a quiet place to be still before the Lord.” And I do agree that there should at least be islands of quiet in the services of the church. Times for meditation and personal prayer. And I share your displeasure with preachers who shout and pound the pulpit. (I have never done so, nor do other pastors I know.)
However, variety in the services of the church would seem to be beneficial. We can sing together, or read Scripture together–or listen to someone sing, or read the Scripture to us. We can pray silently, or pray audibly. We can listen to a sermon, or give a testimony. Even receiving offerings given to the Lord should be a part of what happens. There are many variations and combinations, and the Word of God seems to give us liberty in this to do that which suits the situation best, in keeping with basic biblical principles.
I hope these thoughts are helpful. I greatly appreciate your comments. They helped me to review what I believe and why, on this subject. God bless.
By: rcottrill on July 12, 2018
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What a relief to hear someone concern the very thoughts of my heart. Thank you and God bless bless you.
By: Ron Hassall on August 24, 2019
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